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The Old Fart's avatar

This was a most excellent piece of writing. Your list of worries are exactly mine and I am a 75 year old man. I naively thought better of the men of 2024, but that has proved me tragically wrong. Of the Trump supporting women? Ignorance, what else can it be?

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Tiffany Torres Williams's avatar

I'm really worried about the wave of Trump support I've seen from young men both for Trump and for conservative church culture. 10 years ago churches were having conversations about how to attract men, who viewed church as too feminine and saw Jesus as soft. Now Gen Z men are more religious than women, and I think that has more to do with the ways churches have compromised the message of Christ and embraced more of an authoritative Biblical figure like Paul or even some of the Old Testament characters. It's Christians, as in followers of Christ, not Paulstians.

Anyway, that was a tangent. Thank you for your comment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/23/us/young-men-religion-gen-z.html

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The Old Fart's avatar

Sort of makes you wonder what “the new covenant” is all about for conservative Christians who seem to be firmly rooted in “select” passages from Leviticus.

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Tim Cantrell's avatar

I learned a new word: "Allyship!" THANK YOU. I guess I'm still alive and growing! And I'm not even liberal (I think). Women are different -- isn't that an understatement! Not better, not worse, just different. And after 30 years of marriage, I still can't figure you out! You know, if an husband and wife, or wife and husband -- same difference -- aren't allies, you're in big trouble!

Did you just say it's the women's fault? I COULD NEVER GET AWAY WITH THAT!

In Jesus, "there is neither male nor female: for they are all one" (Gal. 3:28). However, there are some things that men cannot do: WE NEED YOU. And we had better appreciate it. How do we do that? By giving our lives (Eph. 5:25).

Your warning to men is not new: Years ago, an old Preacher told me, "The 'underwear' Rules!" And he finally let his wife have her way. We are to "submit to each other in the reverence [and Love] of God" (Eph. 5:21).

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Russell Rowland's avatar

That Fuentes post is just evil incarnate.

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When We Werent Looking's avatar

I am trying to decide on the perfect comeback for the guys saying, "You're body, my choice." Any ideas? Like:

* "Do the women in your life know what a PIG you are?"

* "Why don't you come to my place and I'll show you my new filet knife - perfect for castration."

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Tiffany Torres Williams's avatar

I think I’m just full of latent rage because I think I would say something like “your face, my fist.” Or “your house, my matches.”

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John Green's avatar

I'm a big tough prize-winning writer man of 79, former athlete, current resistance writer. I also write, publish and perform poems, songs, stories (fictions and fabulations), plays and films and have first or second drafts of MGAN (my great American novel) elusive but waiting in a drawer and on my iCloud.

I've called myself a Feminist since the early 70's, when I read the essays in my wife's copy of "Sisterhood is Powerful". I said YES! all the way through it until I got to Andrea Dworkin's piece asserting that all men are rapists. Big nix to that.

But overall "Sisters" was a revelation to me, and, though a critique, strangely joyful. One reaction: If women could be free, then so could we men! Free from shit bosses, bullies and cheezy machismo (fake manhood).

Possible new substack name: Uncle John's Stack o' Joy (and Tactical Resistance).

Thank you big time, Tiffany Torres!! Onward!

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